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	<title>Comments on: Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/2007/12/roundtable-poc-in-fantasy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10467</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify...what I meant was that I am disgusted with the fact that this even has to be discussed...the problem is not in the story but in the real world (publishers, etc.)...that is where the walls come up...and authors (whether of color or not) are sometimes apprehensive or afraid to put character of color (especially ones that are positive in nature)into their stories...a good story is a good story...so write and we will read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify&#8230;what I meant was that I am disgusted with the fact that this even has to be discussed&#8230;the problem is not in the story but in the real world (publishers, etc.)&#8230;that is where the walls come up&#8230;and authors (whether of color or not) are sometimes apprehensive or afraid to put character of color (especially ones that are positive in nature)into their stories&#8230;a good story is a good story&#8230;so write and we will read!</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/2007/12/roundtable-poc-in-fantasy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10466</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole discussion makes me laugh with disgust...we can deal with elves, orcs, witches, space ships, etc. which are ALL fantasy...they are not real...but throw in a person of color and OMG all of our worlds come crashing down...damn, we (yes I am black) can&#039;t even escape to a world of fantasy either and find freedom or some other plot for antagonism other than skin color as it pertains to people of color in the REAL world...if one can&#039;t handle people of color in fantasy for the sake of their color, then you are beyond a shadow of a doubt racist to the core and that is sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole discussion makes me laugh with disgust&#8230;we can deal with elves, orcs, witches, space ships, etc. which are ALL fantasy&#8230;they are not real&#8230;but throw in a person of color and OMG all of our worlds come crashing down&#8230;damn, we (yes I am black) can&#8217;t even escape to a world of fantasy either and find freedom or some other plot for antagonism other than skin color as it pertains to people of color in the REAL world&#8230;if one can&#8217;t handle people of color in fantasy for the sake of their color, then you are beyond a shadow of a doubt racist to the core and that is sad.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-05-11 &#171; Embololalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-05-11 &#171; Embololalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fantasy Magazine » Fantasy Roundtable: People Of Color In Fantasy Literature (part 1) Debbie: Lots of people read Earthsea and Starship Troopers and a handful of others without realizing that the characters are not white. This is because the default is so strong that implying it clearly or saying it once or twice is not enough. (tags: sf/f race lotr ursulaleguin writing whitewashing) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fantasy Magazine » Fantasy Roundtable: People Of Color In Fantasy Literature (part 1) Debbie: Lots of people read Earthsea and Starship Troopers and a handful of others without realizing that the characters are not white. This is because the default is so strong that implying it clearly or saying it once or twice is not enough. (tags: sf/f race lotr ursulaleguin writing whitewashing) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ajhartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajhartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating conversation about an important issue. My new book, Act of Will, features a classic adventuring party with two PoC. The next book in the series, which won&#039;t be out for a year, tackles the issue of race in fantasy more directly.

Cheers

A.J. Hartley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating conversation about an important issue. My new book, Act of Will, features a classic adventuring party with two PoC. The next book in the series, which won&#8217;t be out for a year, tackles the issue of race in fantasy more directly.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>A.J. Hartley</p>
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		<title>By: Things I&#8217;ve Spotted Today &#171; Ramblings in Space and Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Things I&#8217;ve Spotted Today &#171; Ramblings in Space and Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussion about ethnicity in fantasy and science fiction, which can be found in three parts here, here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fantasy Magazine &#187; Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 3)</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/2007/12/roundtable-poc-in-fantasy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Fantasy Magazine &#187; Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 3)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Fantasy Literature (part 3) Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 2) Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 1) Multicultual Fantasists Alaya Dawn Johnson and Carole McDonnell Mythpunk diva Catherynne M. Valente [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Fantasy Literature (part 3) Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 2) Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 1) Multicultual Fantasists Alaya Dawn Johnson and Carole McDonnell Mythpunk diva Catherynne M. Valente [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had wanted to take part in the round table, but ended up being unavailable.  I&#039;m really impressed by the thoughtfulness of the panel about a variety of difficult issues. I&#039;m looking forward to reading the rest of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had wanted to take part in the round table, but ended up being unavailable.  I&#8217;m really impressed by the thoughtfulness of the panel about a variety of difficult issues. I&#8217;m looking forward to reading the rest of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fantasy Magazine &#187; Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 2)</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/2007/12/roundtable-poc-in-fantasy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>Fantasy Magazine &#187; Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  more original fiction &gt;&gt;  Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 2) Fantasy Roundtable: People of Color in Fantasy Literature (part 1) Retro-future Naturalist Jeremiah Tolbert Multicultual Fantasists Alaya Dawn Johnson and Carole [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sanguinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanguinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, thank you!

I know what you mean about covers -- I own a copy of Butler&#039;s Dawn that features a white woman opening one of the hibernation pods...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, thank you!</p>
<p>I know what you mean about covers &#8212; I own a copy of Butler&#8217;s Dawn that features a white woman opening one of the hibernation pods&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: K. Tempest Bradford</title>
		<link>http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/2007/12/roundtable-poc-in-fantasy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Tempest Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessie,

That depends on the author and the publisher.  From what I understand, small presses are more likely to work closely with the author on the cover.  larger publishing companies usually make decisions regardless of the wishes of the author, but have been open to suggestions and understanding of issues from some authors I know.

Then again, I&#039;m sure Stephen King would never have a cover he didn&#039;t like, and that is probably even true of, say, nancy kress or connie willis or robert jordan (before he died).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessie,</p>
<p>That depends on the author and the publisher.  From what I understand, small presses are more likely to work closely with the author on the cover.  larger publishing companies usually make decisions regardless of the wishes of the author, but have been open to suggestions and understanding of issues from some authors I know.</p>
<p>Then again, I&#8217;m sure Stephen King would never have a cover he didn&#8217;t like, and that is probably even true of, say, nancy kress or connie willis or robert jordan (before he died).</p>
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