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	<title>Comments on: Gregory Bernard Banks on Disability in Fantasy and Science Fiction</title>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some more suggestions (again, a very incomplete list):
* Has anyone mentioned H.G.Well&#039;s &quot;The Country of the Blind?&quot; http://blogworms.blogspot.com/2005/11/country-of-blind-h-g-wells.html
* http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/science_fiction_and_physical_handicap/
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skallagrigg (the movie adaption is currently on YouTube). As with &quot;The Speed of Dark&quot;, &quot;Skalligrig&quot; gets disability/context right (tho the archaic language used to describe sometimes really grated on me). Probably had bigger impact on me than any book I read last year. And I so want to make a version of that game (read it and you&#039;ll know what I mean!)
* Should also throw in &quot;Wake&quot; by Robert J Sawyer (2010 Hugo finalist). Have *very* mixed feelings about it from a disability perspective (bad science doesn&#039;t help) - love to know what others think!

There are some great fanfic and movie resources too. For fanfic: http://access-fandom.dreamwidth.org/8848.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more suggestions (again, a very incomplete list):<br />
* Has anyone mentioned H.G.Well&#8217;s &#8220;The Country of the Blind?&#8221; <a href="http://blogworms.blogspot.com/2005/11/country-of-blind-h-g-wells.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogworms.blogspot.com/2005/11/country-of-blind-h-g-wells.html</a><br />
* <a href="http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/science_fiction_and_physical_handicap/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/science_fiction_and_physical_handicap/</a><br />
* <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skallagrigg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skallagrigg</a> (the movie adaption is currently on YouTube). As with &#8220;The Speed of Dark&#8221;, &#8220;Skalligrig&#8221; gets disability/context right (tho the archaic language used to describe sometimes really grated on me). Probably had bigger impact on me than any book I read last year. And I so want to make a version of that game (read it and you&#8217;ll know what I mean!)<br />
* Should also throw in &#8220;Wake&#8221; by Robert J Sawyer (2010 Hugo finalist). Have *very* mixed feelings about it from a disability perspective (bad science doesn&#8217;t help) &#8211; love to know what others think!</p>
<p>There are some great fanfic and movie resources too. For fanfic: <a href="http://access-fandom.dreamwidth.org/8848.html" rel="nofollow">http://access-fandom.dreamwidth.org/8848.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth Moon&#039;s &quot;The Speed of Dark&quot; (2003 Nebula award winner) is written from the perspective of a high-functioning autistic man. Set in near future; storyline basically revolves around the type of neurodiversity vs cure issues *already* splitting the autism community today.

Will come back with more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth Moon&#8217;s &#8220;The Speed of Dark&#8221; (2003 Nebula award winner) is written from the perspective of a high-functioning autistic man. Set in near future; storyline basically revolves around the type of neurodiversity vs cure issues *already* splitting the autism community today.</p>
<p>Will come back with more.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically Darth Vader&#039;s disabled. ;)

If we&#039;re counting mental as well as physical disability then I&#039;ll add Latro in Gene Wolfe&#039;s Soldier books, as his memory only lasts half a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically Darth Vader&#8217;s disabled. <img src='http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If we&#8217;re counting mental as well as physical disability then I&#8217;ll add Latro in Gene Wolfe&#8217;s Soldier books, as his memory only lasts half a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Mead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Mead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, I&#039;ve been sending the wrong stories to Fantasy. My husband and I have a running joke that I can&#039;t write a story without giving SOMEBODY a disability. ;)

Thanks for an interesting article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, I&#8217;ve been sending the wrong stories to Fantasy. My husband and I have a running joke that I can&#8217;t write a story without giving SOMEBODY a disability. <img src='http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for an interesting article!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Heinlein&#039;s classic &quot;Waldo&quot;, which actually ended up with Waldoes named after it.

Spider Robinson had one about a blind starship pilot conducting first contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Heinlein&#8217;s classic &#8220;Waldo&#8221;, which actually ended up with Waldoes named after it.</p>
<p>Spider Robinson had one about a blind starship pilot conducting first contact.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 03:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tad Williams Otherland series has many.</description>
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		<title>By: Carole McDonnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole McDonnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with pretty much everything that has been said. Will also add that there are many --but not enough-- stories with disabled folks. It&#039;s easy enough to write stories with disabled folks (stereotypes aside) But it&#039;s somewhat difficult to write when the POV main character has extreme disabilities. Extreme disabilities sometimes lead to a different way of perceiving. A true blind POV character -would be a story with descriptions that rely on all the other senses. A tour de force if a non-blind writer can do that. But then such a story about such a character would probably end up focusing on the disability if the writer isn&#039;t careful. And creating magical disabled characters.  

It&#039;s tough to create a story with a POV character with an extreme disability and to not have the story not be totally about the disability, I think. I try to write about disabled characters in all my stories and it is truly difficult to keep the disability upfront in the reader&#039;s mind without at the same time getting mired in it and forgetting the plot. If it&#039;s an extreme disability, the story will have to be about the disability itself, i think.-C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with pretty much everything that has been said. Will also add that there are many &#8211;but not enough&#8211; stories with disabled folks. It&#8217;s easy enough to write stories with disabled folks (stereotypes aside) But it&#8217;s somewhat difficult to write when the POV main character has extreme disabilities. Extreme disabilities sometimes lead to a different way of perceiving. A true blind POV character -would be a story with descriptions that rely on all the other senses. A tour de force if a non-blind writer can do that. But then such a story about such a character would probably end up focusing on the disability if the writer isn&#8217;t careful. And creating magical disabled characters.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s tough to create a story with a POV character with an extreme disability and to not have the story not be totally about the disability, I think. I try to write about disabled characters in all my stories and it is truly difficult to keep the disability upfront in the reader&#8217;s mind without at the same time getting mired in it and forgetting the plot. If it&#8217;s an extreme disability, the story will have to be about the disability itself, i think.-C</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Marlowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Marlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can throw Elric of Melnibone in there as well, or even Raistlin of the Dragonlance books. Both physically degenerative, but very powerful in other regards. It&#039;s how they wrestle with both that makes each character worth reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can throw Elric of Melnibone in there as well, or even Raistlin of the Dragonlance books. Both physically degenerative, but very powerful in other regards. It&#8217;s how they wrestle with both that makes each character worth reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt&#8217;s Bookosphere 7/02/08 &#171; Enter the Octopus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt&#8217;s Bookosphere 7/02/08 &#171; Enter the Octopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gregory Bernard Banks on disability in F/SF [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few more to consider:

* Sheemi Ruiz from The Dark Tower series (incidental secondary character early on in Book 4, then major secondary player by Book 6)

* Duddits from Dreamcatcher 

* the extreme OCD kids in Card&#039;s Children of the Mind

*Greek Hephaestus

* Germanic Weyland/Wayland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more to consider:</p>
<p>* Sheemi Ruiz from The Dark Tower series (incidental secondary character early on in Book 4, then major secondary player by Book 6)</p>
<p>* Duddits from Dreamcatcher </p>
<p>* the extreme OCD kids in Card&#8217;s Children of the Mind</p>
<p>*Greek Hephaestus</p>
<p>* Germanic Weyland/Wayland</p>
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