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		<title>By: Angel Harridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel Harridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely love the Clockwork Cabaret, and think it&#039;s great that you mentioned them. Those Davenport sisters are very entertaining not too mention very friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love the Clockwork Cabaret, and think it&#8217;s great that you mentioned them. Those Davenport sisters are very entertaining not too mention very friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I thought the illusionist was a fantastic choice as far as it went for all of the cool tesla lore that was in it.  However, I have to agree with tablesaw on the substitution of the crappy Will Smith vehicle for the amazingly well conceptualized and executed TV version of Wild Wild West.  And let&#039;s not forget stuff like the awesome original celluloid classic rendition of Jules Vern&#039;s The Time Machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I thought the illusionist was a fantastic choice as far as it went for all of the cool tesla lore that was in it.  However, I have to agree with tablesaw on the substitution of the crappy Will Smith vehicle for the amazingly well conceptualized and executed TV version of Wild Wild West.  And let&#8217;s not forget stuff like the awesome original celluloid classic rendition of Jules Vern&#8217;s The Time Machine.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Tempest Bradford</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Tempest Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should also be remembered that this was a top ten list.  And while I love cheese as much as the next person, there is no &quot;top&quot; that should include Jack of All Trades, Briscoe County, Or Tin Man.  Ever.

Bruce Campbell is awesome.  But there&#039;s a reason those shows did not last.  He was not so awesome as to make them great.

And Tin Man was a travesty.

As to the rest, apparently those involved in putting together the list felt that these movies were better than the other media they knew about.  And a lot of the shows you mentioned I didn&#039;t even recall, though they came on in my lifetime.  I apparently didn&#039;t think they were good enough to remember, so perhaps that&#039;s the case with the others.

Though I do remember Jules Verne and thought it was a good show.  

Going by the list you generated, I would say there are perhaps 3 that I would consider putting on a top 10 steampunk TV list.  Whether they belong in this top ten, I&#039;ll leave for readers to decide :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should also be remembered that this was a top ten list.  And while I love cheese as much as the next person, there is no &#8220;top&#8221; that should include Jack of All Trades, Briscoe County, Or Tin Man.  Ever.</p>
<p>Bruce Campbell is awesome.  But there&#8217;s a reason those shows did not last.  He was not so awesome as to make them great.</p>
<p>And Tin Man was a travesty.</p>
<p>As to the rest, apparently those involved in putting together the list felt that these movies were better than the other media they knew about.  And a lot of the shows you mentioned I didn&#8217;t even recall, though they came on in my lifetime.  I apparently didn&#8217;t think they were good enough to remember, so perhaps that&#8217;s the case with the others.</p>
<p>Though I do remember Jules Verne and thought it was a good show.  </p>
<p>Going by the list you generated, I would say there are perhaps 3 that I would consider putting on a top 10 steampunk TV list.  Whether they belong in this top ten, I&#8217;ll leave for readers to decide <img src='http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tablesaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tablesaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just seemed like the list and intro seemed to be carefully avoiding television, which would otherwise appear to fall under &quot;other media.&quot;

Off the top of my head, I recalled &lt;cite&gt;The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne&lt;/cite&gt;, &lt;cite&gt;The Wild Wild West&lt;/cite&gt;, &lt;cite&gt;Legend&lt;/cite&gt;, &lt;cite&gt;The Adventures of Briscoe County, Jr.&lt;/cite&gt;, &lt;cite&gt;Jack of All Trades&lt;/cite&gt;, and the one-off pilot &lt;cite&gt;The Amazing Screw-On Head&lt;/cite&gt;. A little Wikipedia adds &lt;cite&gt;QED&lt;/cite&gt;, &lt;cite&gt;Tin Man&lt;/cite&gt;, and &lt;cite&gt;Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water&lt;/cite&gt;. I know that &lt;cite&gt;Doctor Who&lt;/cite&gt; has dabbled with it in individual episodes (I immediately think of &quot;Tooth and Claw&quot; and &quot;The Girl in the Fireplace&quot;). There are also series that I don&#039;t know enough to make any sort of call: the new show &lt;cite&gt;Crusoe&lt;/cite&gt; is sitting on my DVR, but it looks like it&#039;ll have slightly anachronistic, slightly implausible, how-the-hell-did-you-build-that-alone-on-an-island aesthetic. (Because it&#039;s set in the 18th century, I&#039;m assuming that fits into steampunk, in a way that &lt;cite&gt;Gilligan&#039;s Island&lt;/cite&gt; doesn&#039;t.) And &lt;cite&gt;Sir Arthur Conan Doyle&#039;s The Lost World&lt;/cite&gt; seems to fit in timeframe and subject matter, but I can&#039;t for the life of me remember much at all about it.

Beyond that, I start batting up against mem-policing. A number of the series above are set in the &quot;the American West,&quot; and focusing on crossing sf and 19th century America nets a lot of space-western possibilities (&lt;cite&gt;Trigun&lt;/cite&gt;, &lt;cite&gt;Firefly&lt;/cite&gt;, etc.) but not all of them are always considered steampunk. Speaking of &lt;cite&gt;Trigun&lt;/cite&gt;, I imagine there&#039;s a lot of ground to cover in cartoons, though al that comes to mind initially is &lt;cite&gt;Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century&lt;/cite&gt;.

So probably enough for a list, though there might have to be some justifications thrown in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just seemed like the list and intro seemed to be carefully avoiding television, which would otherwise appear to fall under &#8220;other media.&#8221;</p>
<p>Off the top of my head, I recalled <cite>The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne</cite>, <cite>The Wild Wild West</cite>, <cite>Legend</cite>, <cite>The Adventures of Briscoe County, Jr.</cite>, <cite>Jack of All Trades</cite>, and the one-off pilot <cite>The Amazing Screw-On Head</cite>. A little Wikipedia adds <cite>QED</cite>, <cite>Tin Man</cite>, and <cite>Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water</cite>. I know that <cite>Doctor Who</cite> has dabbled with it in individual episodes (I immediately think of &#8220;Tooth and Claw&#8221; and &#8220;The Girl in the Fireplace&#8221;). There are also series that I don&#8217;t know enough to make any sort of call: the new show <cite>Crusoe</cite> is sitting on my DVR, but it looks like it&#8217;ll have slightly anachronistic, slightly implausible, how-the-hell-did-you-build-that-alone-on-an-island aesthetic. (Because it&#8217;s set in the 18th century, I&#8217;m assuming that fits into steampunk, in a way that <cite>Gilligan&#8217;s Island</cite> doesn&#8217;t.) And <cite>Sir Arthur Conan Doyle&#8217;s The Lost World</cite> seems to fit in timeframe and subject matter, but I can&#8217;t for the life of me remember much at all about it.</p>
<p>Beyond that, I start batting up against mem-policing. A number of the series above are set in the &#8220;the American West,&#8221; and focusing on crossing sf and 19th century America nets a lot of space-western possibilities (<cite>Trigun</cite>, <cite>Firefly</cite>, etc.) but not all of them are always considered steampunk. Speaking of <cite>Trigun</cite>, I imagine there&#8217;s a lot of ground to cover in cartoons, though al that comes to mind initially is <cite>Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century</cite>.</p>
<p>So probably enough for a list, though there might have to be some justifications thrown in.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Tempest Bradford</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Tempest Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We hadn&#039;t intended to do a separate television list.  Are there even 10 steampunky TV shows out there?  I actually wouldn&#039;t mind seeing that list :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We hadn&#8217;t intended to do a separate television list.  Are there even 10 steampunky TV shows out there?  I actually wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing that list <img src='http://www.fantasy-magazine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tablesaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tablesaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devoting 20% of your list to 2006 movies about stage magicians at the turn of the century? Really?

Also, I have to assume that television is going to be getting its own list, since you opted for the film &lt;cite&gt;Wild Wild West&lt;/cite&gt; over the original series &lt;cite&gt;The Wild Wild West&lt;/cite&gt; and because other obvious choices like &lt;cite&gt;The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne&lt;/cite&gt; are absent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devoting 20% of your list to 2006 movies about stage magicians at the turn of the century? Really?</p>
<p>Also, I have to assume that television is going to be getting its own list, since you opted for the film <cite>Wild Wild West</cite> over the original series <cite>The Wild Wild West</cite> and because other obvious choices like <cite>The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne</cite> are absent.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out the MTV report on Steampunk and thought it was interesting that they claimed there was no music scene involving steampunk, just more of an acknowledgment from the goth crowd.  It doesn&#039;t surprise me much that MTV has overlooked this. Bands like The Decemberists or even Devotchka,  have elements of their music that are more akin to early 20th century technique, with bygone sensibilities and storytelling.  

Check out the Decemberists for what I think could easily be considered a true steampunk band. Songs like the &quot;Mariner&#039;s Lament,&quot; &quot;Eli the Barrowboy,&quot; and &quot;We Both Go Down Together&quot; feature accordians instead of screaming guitars, clever lyrics, and Victorian tragedy.  

Their website (www.decemberists.com) evokes an old time flair that MTV probably missed in its quest to hunt down Billy Corgan&#039;s outfit from &quot;Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness&quot; for their VJ to wear.  Oddly enough, the Decemberists don&#039;t do steampunk videos or really proclaim any sort of affinity for it as far as I can tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out the MTV report on Steampunk and thought it was interesting that they claimed there was no music scene involving steampunk, just more of an acknowledgment from the goth crowd.  It doesn&#8217;t surprise me much that MTV has overlooked this. Bands like The Decemberists or even Devotchka,  have elements of their music that are more akin to early 20th century technique, with bygone sensibilities and storytelling.  </p>
<p>Check out the Decemberists for what I think could easily be considered a true steampunk band. Songs like the &#8220;Mariner&#8217;s Lament,&#8221; &#8220;Eli the Barrowboy,&#8221; and &#8220;We Both Go Down Together&#8221; feature accordians instead of screaming guitars, clever lyrics, and Victorian tragedy.  </p>
<p>Their website (www.decemberists.com) evokes an old time flair that MTV probably missed in its quest to hunt down Billy Corgan&#8217;s outfit from &#8220;Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness&#8221; for their VJ to wear.  Oddly enough, the Decemberists don&#8217;t do steampunk videos or really proclaim any sort of affinity for it as far as I can tell.</p>
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